Floyd Rose: "Many people ask if this would have happened without Eddie Van Halen and I think it would have, but certainly not as quickly"

Floyd Rose, inventor of the locking tremelo system for guitars appears at The NAMM Show on January 23, 2015 in Anaheim, California
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Back in 2010, Guitarist magazine's Simon Bradley spoke to Floyd Rose for a rare interview about his achievements and legacy in the world of guitar. He spoke about the development of the system from its very first incarnation, how he felt about the licensed version of his design and the impact a certain Eddie Van Halen had - both on his business and on music itself…

Les Paul, Leo Fender, Seth Lover  Marshall's Dudley Craven and Ken Bran – the catalogue of inventors who have genuinely altered the course of the electric guitar and its associated music is, if you actually chew it over for a while, a fairly short one. However, any list that doesn't include the name of Floyd Rose is incomplete. 

His creation – an innovative type of guitar bridge and nut that securely locked the strings at both ends – hit the streets with an almost mythical sense of timing: it coincided with the emergence of a four-piece band, blasting out of Pasadena, California, and history was baying to be inscribed onto the slabs of time. The band was Van Halen and the invention was shortly to become the double-locking tremolo system.

"Oh yeah, Eddie (Van Halen) was the driving force, especially in the advertising," concedes Floyd over a freakishly clear transatlantic phone line. "Many people ask if this would have happened without Eddie and I think it would have, but certainly not as quickly. I think guitar players wanted to stay in tune, but Eddie's power and popularity at the time made it explode onto the scene."

Floyd is a little fuzzy on the exact date of the genesis of the concept of the Floyd Rose tremolo system, but it's certain that he filed for his very first patent towards the end of the seventies...

"I'm not very good at timelines, being 61 now, but I started when I was 28 I think," Floyd laughs.

That makes it 1976 by our shaky subtraction and there are so many conflicting accounts of the bridge in the public domain that we're grateful to be able to take our opportunity to ask him how it all started."How much detail do you want?" he asks us with what we're certain is a knowing raise of the eyebrows. "All of it? Okay...

All the tricks that we used just weren't good enough for me – lubricating the nut, aligning the strings, using fewer winds around the peg, that type of thing

"Well, being in a rock band myself and being a big fan of Hendrix and Deep Purple, using the whammy was something I wanted to do, only I'm real finicky about being in tune when I play," he begins. "All the tricks that we used just weren't good enough for me – lubricating the nut, aligning the strings, using fewer winds around the peg, that type of thing.

"My first modification [Floyd played a Strat back then] was to loosen the six screws the bridge rocks on in front so I could get more range, and I also had the 1/4-inch bar [arm]. To my dismay that increased range just made it more unstable. I like to start a song with a whammy bar effect but so often you'd come in on the first chord and it was like... horrible!

"So, one night after practice I got back home and I was watching TV while noodling on guitar. I had the nut kinda close to my head and as I pushed the bar down I noticed that the windings on the low E string slid across the nut."It just came to me that that was the problem, so I got a pen and marked the string, went down on the bar, let it come back under spring tension and sure enough that string didn't come back into position. So I figured that, if friction was the problem, the answer was to remove it completely: no friction, no movement.

"So I got some Krazy Glue, glued the string after it was tuned, went down slowly and sure enough it worked for a while, until the glue let go. Boom, it came back in tune... well, at least that string did!"

This all sounds like something any of us might do in an idle moment, but the next step would rely not only on Floyd's inventiveness and inspiration, but his engineering skill too.

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The next version I designed I had made at a machine shop: it cost me $600! I had to borrow the money from my parents, but it worked pretty well

"At the time I was making jewellery so I had a lapidary rig – you use it to cut stones and silver – and I took a piece of brass and made the first nut which had three little U-shaped clamps and a hole through it," he continues. "I put it on my '57 Strat neck, which is of course sacrilege – every time a collector hears that, they just cringe – but I wanted it to stay in tune. I was real careful too, so I made sure it fitted into the original nut slot – it was maybe just a little bit wider than 1/4 inch – and all I did was drill two holes underneath where the nut would sit. So I started using it and, as long as I didn't go too deep on the bar, it was fine.

"So from there I needed a stronger one that'd hold the strings, so the next version I designed I had made at a machine shop: it cost me $600! I had to borrow the money from my parents, but it worked pretty well. I started the learning process of metalworking and hardening, the fact that the steel on the strings dents the metal after you clamp a few times, so it stops working."

Floyd considers this as the very first version of what would become the familiar double-locking system. The second version included both a locking nut and a new bridge, with the third featuring an improved bridge design. Floyd takes up the story.

"The progression was set in place and when I showed it to a few people, of course they wanted one. The second guy I sold one to was Randy Hansen, an amazing Hendrix impersonator.

Randy Hansen at the Park West in Chicago, Illinois, August 18, 1979

Randy Hansen performingt the Park West in Chicago, Illinois, 18 August 1979 (Image credit: Paul Natkin/Getty Images)

A friend of mine, Linn Ellsworth of Boogie Bodies guitars, was making guitars for Eddie at the time so I went with him to show Eddie the tremolo

"That version didn't have tuners on the bridge, but it didn't need it since I hand-made them and I would hand-sand the lip of the nut clamps so that when they went down in the rails they couldn't twist when you tightened the wrench. When we started to mass produce them, you couldn't really make them that accurately anymore so that's when I started to think that there had to be a way to tune it after it was clamped. That's when I invented the version with the fine tuners.

As we continue to chat, Eddie Van Halen's name starts to crop up with increasing regularity. VH's kinetic debut hit the streets in 1977, and even then the guitarist was looking for a way to keep his guitar in tune. Perfect timing, see?

"A friend of mine, Linn Ellsworth of Boogie Bodies guitars, was making guitars for Eddie at the time so I went with him to show Eddie the tremolo. He liked it and gave me a guitar to put one on, which was the one without fine tuners, the fourth version."

Eddie Van Halen of Van Halen performs on stage playing the guitar on their first Japanese Tour, Shinjuku-kousei-nenkin-hall, Shinjuku, Tokyo, Japan, June 1978

Eddie Van Halen performing with Van Halen in Tokyo on the band's first tour of Japan in June, 1978 (Image credit: Koh Hasebe/Shinko Music/Getty Images)

He always wanted to have his name on it and I wouldn't agree to that; I wanted my name on it!

How about the EVH Signature Floyd Rose bridge that is fitted to the latest [in 2010 this was Peavey] version of the Wolfgang?

"Well, he always wanted to have his name on it and I wouldn't agree to that; I wanted my name on it!" laughs Floyd. "But on the one he's using, his version, we let him put his name on it as a 'thank you' to him for his part. That version is made like the originals."

Was there any other player at the time who had a hand in increasing the trem's profile?

"Well, there was [Journey guitarist] Neal Schon... I would sell these by going to big concerts and I would get backstage," Floyd says. "I learned real quick that if I asked to speak to anyone from the band, you didn't get anywhere, so I asked to speak to the guitar tech for the guy and of course he's all excited. So I would show them first and they would show the artist, and that's how I got in.

"Neal saw it and wanted one put on his Les Paul, and he gave me one that he said he'd never liked the sound of. I brought it back to him and it became one of his favourites as I'd taken so much wood out of it the sound had changed."

Neal Schon of Journey performs at Shoreline Amphitheatre on August 26, 2006 in Mountain View, California

NealSchon (Image credit: Tim Mosenfelder/Getty Images)

As ever, there are original Floyds and there are derivatives, some officially licensed and others... not so. How do you feel about the whole licensing trend?

"Well, if it doesn't say Floyd Rose on it, then it's not a real Floyd Rose, y'know? The way that came about was when I went with Kramer we needed bridges right away, because Eddie was endorsing and we were getting tons of orders.

We had a big discussion about how to address the problem – we couldn't just constantly sue everybody

"When I got all the patents secured and Kramer started selling guitars like crazy with tremolo on them, the other companies started copying. So we had to go visit them and then, because of that, we had a big discussion about how to address the problem – we couldn't just constantly sue everybody – so Kramer CEO Dennis Beradi and I made a deal that other companies could license and make the bridges.

"Of course, when we did that deal we just didn't think that approving the quality mattered at the time - it was just impossible to police. That's how the licensing thing came along and we felt that we could sell the companies that cared the original as an OEM piece.

"Again, people immediately wanted to put them on lower-priced guitars, so they went to manufacturers in Asia, but the quality... they didn't know how to make one. The metal hardening is critical and they didn't know how to do it, so the bridges failed pretty easily."

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Simon Bradley is a guitar and especially rock guitar expert who worked for Guitarist magazine and has in the past contributed to world-leading music and guitar titles like MusicRadar (obviously), Guitarist, Guitar World and Louder. What he doesn't know about Brian May's playing and, especially, the Red Special, isn't worth knowing.