“I saw people in the audience holding up these banners: ‘SAMMY SUCKS!' 'WE WANT DAVE!’”: How Sammy Hagar and Van Halen won their war with David Lee Roth
An epic rock battle began 40 years ago

The announcement came on April Fool’s Day, 1985. But this was no joke.
America’s biggest rock band had lost its superstar singer. David Lee Roth had quit Van Halen.
To everyone outside the band, it was shocking news. At that time, Van Halen were at the very top of their game.
Two years earlier, they had headlined the US Festival in California before an audience of 375,000 – and pocketed a reported $1 million fee.
The following year, their single Jump topped the US chart and its parent album, 1984, was well on its way to selling 10 million copies.
Eddie Van Halen was the most famous guitar player in the world, yet even he wasn’t the biggest star in his own band.
That was Roth, aka Diamond Dave.
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A fast-talking, high-kicking showman with a huge ego and a seemingly endless supply of comic one-liners.
To fans and media alike, the band would be sunk without him.
There had always been conflict within Van Halen, and it reached critical mass months before Roth left. “The band had disintegrated into a spiteful bunch of bleary-eyed, argumentative, procrastinating individuals,” the singer later explained.
Roth’s exit had been carefully planned – he had been rehearsing in secret with a new band closely modelled on Van Halen, right down to virtuoso guitarist Steve Vai.
Roth had already tested the water at the start of 1985 with Crazy From The Heat, a four-track covers E.P. which reached No.15 in the Billboard chart.
In the battle between Van Halen and their newly departed singer, the smart money was on Diamond Dave…
But if Roth had a head start on his ex-bandmates, the guys he’d left behind weren’t about to just roll over and die.
And what they found in Sammy Hagar was a new singer with the charisma, the force of personality and the brass balls to replace Diamond Dave.
Hagar was always cocky, and in 1985, at the age of 37, he had every right to be.
The California native had first come to prominence in the early '70s as the singer for Montrose, a band that had a profound influence on American hard rock in general and Van Halen in particular.
After being fired from Montrose, Hagar forged a successful solo career that reached a pinnacle with 1984’s VOA and the single I Can’t Drive 55, an all-American protest song from a fast car enthusiast.
After Roth’s exit, Van Halen had considered several other singers, among them Cold Chisel frontman Jimmy Barnes, future Mr. Big vocalist Eric Martin and even a female singer, Patty Smyth.
But Hagar was in a different league. Moreover, he knew and liked Eddie Van Halen.
“I’d met Eddie twice at festivals,” he said. “He was a Montrose freak, and I thought he was the nicest guy in the world. He was very naïve, innocent, humble. He was like a kid.”
When Van Halen reached out to Hagar in 1985, they were, in his words, “high and dry”. But he retained the mindset of a solo artist. “I’d come off three platinum albums,” he said. “I said, ’I’m gonna get Eddie to play on my record.’”
That plan was quickly forgotten. As Hagar recalled: “Eddie was insistent. He was like, ‘You gotta come tomorrow!’ I said, ‘I just got home from a tour. I ain’t gonna do nothing tomorrow.’” But within a few days, Hagar was at Eddie’s home in LA’s Coldwater Canyon.
The house was modest, described by Hagar as “a two-bedroom county-style place, small – not a badass house whatsoever”.
In an adjacent garage was Eddie’s recording studio, 5150.
Named after the Californian police term for a mentally disturbed person, the studio had been designed by Donn Landee, the engineer who had assisted producer Ted Templeman on every Van Halen album, and also the two albums Hagar recorded with Montrose.
In the weeks prior to Hagar’s arrival, the band – Eddie and his brother, drummer Alex Van Halen, plus bassist Michael Anthony – had begun work on some new songs, recorded by Landee.
Hagar admitted he was a little nervous on the day.
“It wasn’t like I was auditioning,” he said, “but if you walk in and start singing with a band, you can feel pretty fucking uncomfortable.”
Eddie walked him into the studio to meet the other guys. Also present were Donn Landee and the brothers’ jazz-musician dad, Jan Van Halen. Hagar noticed that the band were frazzled from a lack of sleep. “They’d been up all night,” he said. “I was impressed with the work ethic. But I was thinking, these guys are fuckin’ crazy…”
He was also astonished at the conditions inside the studio. “It was a mess,” he said. “There must have been 300 beer bottles and cans laying around. Half of them had beer in them and old cigarettes. Every ashtray was overflowing with cigarette butts. There were butts left burnt on the floor. That place stunk like a fucking bar that hadn’t been cleaned for a hundred years. Eddie’s guitars were everywhere – maybe 30 guitars, laying against walls, on the floor, just knocked over.”
First, they talked. They knew Sammy could sing. What they needed was a sense of whether he would fit the band as a personality. The last thing they wanted was another Roth.
As the talk turned to business, Hagar was struck by their naïveté.
“I asked these questions,” he said. “Like, ‘How much did you net on the last tour?’ I realised I was making three times more money than any one of those guys. They’d been spending most of it, splitting it four ways. I’m thinking, ‘Do I really wanna be in a band like this and take a pay cut?’”
But as soon as they started jamming, everything changed.
The band played a grooving, mid-tempo riff and Hagar jumped on it. “I started singing to it, making up words,” he recalled. “And right off the bat I sang, ‘Summer nights and my radio…’
“They all got excited. ‘Oh man, this guy can sing!’ And Jan was diggin’ that I could scat like a jazz singer.”
The jam session lasted from noon ’til midnight, without a break.
They went through all the song ideas the band had, including the punchy riff that would form the basis for the track Good Enough. Donn Landee got it all down on tape.
The following day, after Hagar had gone back to his home in Mill Valley, California, he listened again to what they had recorded.
It sounded good – so good that Hagar made his decision there and then.
He called Eddie and told him: “I wanna do it.” Eddie was ecstatic.
Then Hagar called his manager, Ed Leffler: “I’m doing it.”
Leffler’s first reaction was disbelief: “You’re fucking crazy.” After a moment’s thought, he added: “Let me talk to David Geffen…”
For Hagar to join Van Halen, an agreement would have to be negotiated between his label, Geffen Records, and the band’s own label, Warner Bros.
Hagar knew this would not come easily – he was Geffen’s biggest artist, and owner David Geffen was not just going to let him go.
But Hagar was not inclined to wait. He celebrated with his new bandmates at a Mexican restaurant in Hollywood. “We ate tacos and drank margaritas and laughed all night,” he recalled.
A period of intensive rehearsals began as Hagar moved into a rented house in LA. They had five new songs written and partly recorded before Geffen shook hands on a deal with Warners president Mo Ostin.
“Sammy, you have no fucking idea what you cost me,” Ostin later told the singer, though the mogul knew it was a price worth paying after he heard the song that would become Van Halen’s comeback single.
The band had already recorded a demo of Why Can’t This Be Love, but when Ostin visited 5150 they chose to perform the track live off the studio floor, with Eddie playing keyboards and Hagar on guitar.
“That freaked him out to begin with,” Hagar said. “But when we finished playing it, Mo had the biggest grin on his face. He put his finger in the air and said, ‘I smell money!’”
From this defining moment, another important decision was reached. Such was the stature of Dave Lee Roth that one Warners exec, in all seriousness, suggested that the band be renamed ‘Van Hagar’. According to Hagar, this idea was considered for one day.
“At first I was flattered,” he admitted. “But then I thought, fuck that – this is Van Halen! I’m joining them. We’re not starting another band.”
More importantly, Hagar had total self-belief. In his mind, he was better qualified than Roth to be the singer in Van Halen.
“I was a fan of the band,” he said, “but Roth always bugged me. He was fake and contrived.
“If anything, Dave had been mimicking me. He started wearing bandanas after I did. He started drinking Jack Daniel’s on stage after I did. I didn’t have enough respect for him to fear that job.”
As Van Halen continued working on the new album at 5150, there was one notable absentee.
For the first time in the band’s career, they were making an album without producer Ted Templeman.
Worse, Templeman was producing Roth’s first full-length solo record.
Van Halen viewed this as an act of betrayal.
“We were the anti-Roth camp,” Hagar said. “He was the enemy of all enemies. Not to me – I didn’t even know the fucker. But I’m a team player, and he’s the enemy, right? So Ted Templeman was too.”
By default, Donn Landee assumed the role of producer. Hagar had doubts about this, but the others were happy enough. The music was flowing out of them, and for Eddie, the band’s primary songwriter, working with Hagar was a revelation.
“From the first second, Sammy could do anything I threw at him,” Eddie told Rolling Stone. “It just opened up a whole new door. Finally, we felt like we were four people with a common vision. All of a sudden everything felt complete.”
Synth-heavy ballad Love Walks In was the best example of how Eddie’s writing was developing. It wasn’t the first Van Halen song based around synthesisers, nor was it their first ballad. But it had something new: a deep emotional quality.
“The first time Eddie played me that song, late one night, I got goose-bumps,” Hagar said. “It was so beautiful. I wrote the lyrics on the spot, and I sang it live with a hand-held mic. If you listen closely, it ain’t the best vocal sound in the world, but the performance is slammin’.”
More typical of Van Halen was the hard rock anthem Best Of Both Worlds. “It’s such a funky song,” Hagar said. “That’s R&B played full volume.”
There was also a goofy throwaway track, Inside, on which the new Van Halen made jokes at the expense of their former singer. If they sounded drunk on that track, it was, according to Hagar, a fairly accurate representation of the way these guys operated.
“I wasn’t a big drinker,” he said, “but the whole time we were making that record, everybody had a beer, constantly, except me. Ed would say, ‘I gotta take a piss.’ He’d come back with two beers – one for him and one for Al. And Al would do the same, only sometimes he’d bring two or three beers for himself and one for Ed. Ed would drink all day and night. I just wished I could play that great sober.”
Hagar could tolerate the drinking. What he couldn’t do was let the band finish the album without the aid of a recognised producer. It was too important for that.
“I felt that Donn Landee was just an engineer,” Hagar said. “And Ed wasn’t a strong leader who would produce a record. So I said, ‘We need a producer. How about Mick Jones?’ The guys said, ‘Sure.’ We were a very diplomatic band.”
Mick Jones, the guitarist and founding member of Foreigner, had known Hagar since the ’70s, when Montrose had toured with Jones’ former band, Spooky Tooth.
Jones had co-produced many of Foreigner’s biggest albums, including the multi-million seller 4.
“I thought Mick was a great songwriter, and would help us hone our songs,” Hagar said.
Jones was in LA when Hagar contacted him. Immediately, he agreed to go up to 5150 to hear some music and talk with the band.
“Sammy picked me up,” Jones recalled, “and as we were driving up to the studio I said, ‘What should I expect up there?’ He said, ‘Mick, you and I have been around awhile. But let me tell you, this is something else. Hold tight and enjoy the ride!’”
The first track the band played for Jones was a frenetic heavy-metal blowout, called Get Up. That was all it took for him to sign up as producer.
“I’ve never heard anything like that I my life,” he told them. “It sounds like four guys fighting inside the speaker cabinets, beating the shit out of each other. I’m in!”
Hagar’s instinct was right. A proven hitmaker, Jones bought his wisdom to bear on Van Halen’s new songs.
He helped turn Why Can’t This Be Love from a lengthy jam into a bona fide hit-in-waiting, and he encouraged the band to develop an Eddie Van Halen keyboard riff into the barrelling Dreams, coaxing out one of Hagar’s greatest ever vocal performances in the process.
“I was able to push Sammy to new heights,” says Jones. “Literally. He was singing so high that he was hyperventilating. He almost passed out.”
Jones took a different approach with Eddie Van Halen, just letting him do his thing.
“There’s not much I could have done to improve Eddie’s performances,” he said. “He was completely out there – not drug-wise, he just went into this trance state as he played.”
In these moments, Jones was reminded of the times he spent with Jimi Hendrix in the late ’60s, when Jones was the guitarist for French superstar Johnny Hallyday and Hendrix was the opening act on a European tour.
“When I worked with Eddie, it was the first time I’d met a guitar player who had a similar gift, who had that thing running through him from up above,” Jones said.
As work on the Van Halen album neared completion in December 1985, there was a buzz in the air at 5150.
“We all felt,” Hagar said, “that the music we were making was on such a high level, we just didn’t feel like anyone could touch that. There was a quote that was said maybe five times a day: ‘Wait ’til the fans hear this shit.’ We knew.”
But there was one person who wasn’t smiling. From the first day that Mick Jones arrived at 5150, he had sensed animosity from Donn Landee.
“Donn had expected he would produce the album,” Jones said. “So there was an atmosphere of resentment between him and me.”
Jones handled this with quintessential British reserve. Until, that is, Landee flipped.
“Donn had a bad moment,” Jones explained. “He locked himself in the studio and threatened to burn the tapes. It was a stand-off for almost a day – like one of those situations where somebody’s going to commit suicide. He was very highly strung. But in the end, we talked him down.”
Surprisingly, there were no repercussions for Landee. He cleared the air with Jones, and together they completed the final mix of the album in January 1986. “We had to work fast,” Jones said. “The band had a tour booked.”
On a sunny LA day in February, Mick Jones was driving in a convertible sports car, the top down, the radio tuned to a rock station, when a DJ announced in an excited voice: “Here’s something brand new from Van Halen!”
He played Best Of Both Worlds. Jones cranked up the volume.
“It sounded amazing,” he said.
He was certain that Van Halen had nailed it.
In early March came the first single.
Why Can’t This Be Love was an instant hit, rising to No.2 on the US chart.
The 5150 album was released on 24 March. It was an out-of the-box success.
“The album went platinum in one week,” Hagar said. “It was the fastest million-selling record in Warners’ history.”
The reconfigured Van Halen kicked off their first tour on 27 March in Shreveport, Louisiana.
The first song they played that night was Hagar’s 1982 solo hit, There’s Only One Way To Rock. Coming from Van Halen, it was a powerful statement of unity.
A few weeks later, before a show in Atlanta, Georgia, the four members of Van Halen were summoned to their manager’s hotel suite for a meeting. Champagne was poured, and the band were told that 5150 was at No.1.
“We fuckin’ partied!” Hagar said. “It was such a high. None of us had ever had a number one.”
There were attempts to spoil the party by a small number of old-school Van Halen fans loyal to Roth.
Hagar said: “I saw people in the audience holding up these banners: ‘FUCK HAGAR, WHERE’S DAVE?’ ‘SAMMY SUCKS! WE WANT ROTH!’
Hagar claims that Roth had a hand in this. “Dave would pay for these guys’ tickets,” he said. “But the truth is, we didn’t give a fuck. We were selling records faster than they could print them and we were selling out every show. We felt invincible.”
In July, Roth’s album Eat ’Em And Smile was released. It peaked at No.4 on the US chart.
Hagar insisted that Roth’s failure to match Van Halen’s No.1 was not the cue for another celebration.
“We didn’t care about him,” he said. “We were so absorbed in our own success.”
But the numbers would tell the story. Roth’s album sold one million to Van Halen’s five million. The enemy had been defeated.
When Sammy Hagar reflected on what he calls “my crazy ride with Van Halen”, he had mixed emotions.
But he was never a man to hold grudges.
“The bad shit doesn’t carry with me,” he said. “As bad as it was at the end of my time with that band, I have no resentments, no regrets.”
He said of 5150. “It was a mind-blower. To have the success that we had with that record – a second run for the band – it was kind of a miracle in rock’n’roll.
“The fans could have rejected it, but they bought into our trip.
“I would say that record was the highlight of my musical career. And the power in those songs – you can still feel it.”
This original version of this article appeared in Classic Rock in 2014.
Paul Elliott has worked for leading music titles since 1985, including Sounds, Kerrang!, MOJO and Q. He is the author of several books including the first biography of Guns N’ Roses and the autobiography of bodyguard-to-the-stars Danny Francis. He has written liner notes for classic album reissues by artists such as Def Leppard, Thin Lizzy and Kiss. He lives in Bath - of which David Coverdale recently said: “How very Roman of you!”
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